It is all over the net that in 1935 Rutherford got a flash of light stating that his followers would start to have an earthly hope. The great multitude that is. And that prior to that there were some classes of earthly salvation but it did not appear to be his followers that would be involved in that. If this is so then why in the Millions now living will never die book written in 1920 was he giving the hope that people could live on earth with the ancient worthies in 1925. This book was written for his followers. Does anyone have any good references and or info regarding this. All help greatly appreciated.
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Teaching Prior to 1935 about heaven
by golden age init is all over the net that in 1935 rutherford got a flash of light stating that his followers would start to have an earthly hope.
the great multitude that is.
and that prior to that there were some classes of earthly salvation but it did not appear to be his followers that would be involved in that.
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Great Multitude and Heaven (scans needed)
by golden age intoday in the wt literature, it is very clear that most people will stay on earth and the the 144k will go to heaven, but in review of the older literature it is very difficult to understand exactly what they believed.
they had 4 classes the 144k who would go to heaven, a great company who would also be a heavenly class, but they also had two earthly classes.
who were part of these earthly classes?
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I See what you are saying about the 4 classes. But that still does not make it clear that the wt said prior to 1935 that all of their members would go to heaven. In the book Millions now living never die, they basically are telling people to look foreward to living a life on earth in paradise which was supposed to be in 1925. Therefore they were telling there members they had an earthly hope. Does anyone have any info on this.
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SCAN Needed Golden Age 3/30/32
by golden age in.
can someone please scan in the cover and the article in this issue about vaccination
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Thanks, but i have seen the cartoon, i am trying to get scans of the content of the article. If any one has this or any info please post.
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Great Multitude and Heaven (scans needed)
by golden age intoday in the wt literature, it is very clear that most people will stay on earth and the the 144k will go to heaven, but in review of the older literature it is very difficult to understand exactly what they believed.
they had 4 classes the 144k who would go to heaven, a great company who would also be a heavenly class, but they also had two earthly classes.
who were part of these earthly classes?
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Today in the wt literature, it is very clear that most people will stay on earth and the the 144k will go to heaven, but in review of the older literature it is very difficult to understand exactly what they believed. They had 4 classes the 144k who would go to heaven, a great company who would also be a heavenly class, but they also had two earthly classes. Who were part of these earthly classes? Were they people of other churches? Does any one have any references and or info.
Apperently through the history in 1935 rutherford changed the calling of the great crowd to an earthly hope. Does any one have a scan of a watchtower article explaining that they used to think they went to heaven now new light has changed thi
Are there any scans showing something like ===join our orginization and you will go to heaven=== from the old literature (like today they have hundreds of pamphlets and mags saying --join and you will live on earth forever---)
I have had difficulty coming up with info and scans regarding this, all help appreciated, thanks.
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What Doctrines Have Changed?
by Rayvin ini was talking to my father about the awake!
mag talking about christianity and how their followers were losing faith and trust in the religion because doctrines have changed.
what was once a sin five yrs ago is no longer a sin.
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The celebration of christmas has changed, It was once thought to be very appropriate to celebrate, and it was even suggested in many wt publications to give WT books as gifts.
Additionally the society thought the jesus died on a cross, the earlier watchtowers all have crosses on the cover of them and many old books have pictures of jesus on a cross.
Additionally, the watchtower taught that the Great pyramid in egypt was gods stone witness and they later changed there view claming it was designed by satan.
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SCAN Needed Golden Age 3/30/32
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can someone please scan in the cover and the article in this issue about vaccination
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Can someone please scan in the cover and the article in this issue about vaccination please. I would really appreciate it, I have been serching for a while now. Thanks.
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Golden Aga magazine
by golden age indoes any one have the 3/30/32 issue of the golden age magazine.
if so would anyone be willing to scan it in and email or post it.
i would really appreciate all help with this thanks.
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golden age
Does any one have the 3/30/32 issue of the golden age magazine. If so would anyone be willing to scan it in and email or post it. I would really appreciate all help with this thanks.
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paradise earth vs heaven
by golden age ini was wondering on many web sites the statement that the jws did not believe in paradise earth until 1935 is found.
becasue apperently some new light came to rutherford in that year and it was announced at the washington dc convention at that time.
so why then did rutherford in the 1920s write the book that millions now living will never die and state that the old testament saints (abraham and isacc, ect) would not have and heavenly hopes and would once again live on earth.
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I was wondering on many web sites the statement that the jws did not believe in paradise earth until 1935 is found. Becasue apperently some new light came to rutherford in that year and it was announced at the washington dc convention at that time. So why then did rutherford in the 1920s write the book that millions now living will never die and state that the old testament saints (abraham and isacc, ect) would NOT have and heavenly hopes and would once again live on earth. All help on this would be appreciated.
thanks
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Help finding source
by golden age inon mulpiple web sites about jw quotes the reference is indicated as "ibid", what is the ibid i have never heard or found any jw book with this title.
it appears that many of the more improtant quotes are referenced to this.
all help would be appreciated thanks.
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On mulpiple web sites about jw quotes the reference is indicated as "ibid", what is the ibid i have never heard or found any jw book with this title. It appears that many of the more improtant quotes are referenced to this. All help would be appreciated thanks.
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Predications for 1925
by golden age infreqently when witnessing to witnesses they claim that the 1925 predictions were only a probability and not a certainty.
however review of the original material proves other wise apperently in the watchtower, october 1, 1984, p. 24 there is an admission the rutherford made a fool of himself with these predictions.
does anyone have a jpg scan of the watchtower, october 1, 1984, p. 24 that they could post.
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Freqently when witnessing to witnesses they claim that the 1925 predictions were only a probability and not a certainty. However review of the original material proves other wise apperently in the Watchtower, October 1, 1984, p. 24 there is an admission the rutherford made a fool of himself with these predictions. Does anyone have a jpg scan of The Watchtower, October 1, 1984, p. 24 that they could post. Thanks.